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Re: FW: WingZ 1989 World Tour - any info?

Posted By: Glyn Balmer
Date: Tuesday, 12 February 2008, at 7:25 a.m.

I too recall seeing the realtor demo in Ashford, Middlesex, UK (waaaay before Bedfont Lakes was built).

Regards

"DaveK" <sorry@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5981r3ls3mdeuq24el3l54fbiqqtfenf0s@4ax.com...
>I still have my SMARTWARE II mug, and it still keeps a beverage hot ;-)
>
> If I have my timeline correct, Innovative Technologies, which produced the
> products Smartware and Smartware II, integrated office suite products for the
> PC, either bought WingZ or developed it themselves - not sure which. Informix
> bought Innovative around 1988/89 and inherited WingZ as part of that deal.
>
> WingZ was a pretty cool product - I still remember the "Kansas City House
> Hunter" demo that showed a way cool (especially for the time) house search
> application complete with actual pictures of the houses (bleeding edge tech back
> then.) WingZ wasn't *entirely* ignored by Informix marketing, but the real
> sticky wicket came when they tried to produce a follow up to both it and
> Informix-4GL, a product that was eventually to become NewEra (original internal
> name was 4GL++). Two different tools development groups, WingZ and 4GL, who had
> very different ideas about what the final product should be. Curiously enough,
> the product that was produced was similar in many ways to Java - object
> oriented, object libraries to provide additional (non-core) functionality,
> interpreted rather than compiled, etc.
>
> DaveK
>
> Also sprach "malcolm.iiug" <maliiug@btopenworld.com> :
>
> :
> :
> :
> :
> : _____
> :
> :From: malcolm.iiug [mailto:maliiug@btopenworld.com]
> :Sent: 30 January 2008 23:13
> :To: 'Ian Michael Gumby'
> :Subject: RE: WingZ 1989 World Tour - any info?
> :
> :
> :
> :I didn't get to go on the world tour. But I was around in those days.
> :
> :
> :
> :Wingz was a very powerful spreadsheet written in a powerful 4GL called
> :HyperScript. In fact Wingz could handle a bigger worksheet(32768 by 32768)
> :in 1989 than Excel can handle now.
> :
> :HyperScript was a very powerful language for developing GUI business
> :intelligence applications. It had database access - of course - and some
> :really neat charts. One demo used a spreadsheet to draw a pictorial
> :representation of Starship Enterprise.
> :
> :Originally both products were developed for MAC - and ported from there to
> :Windows 3.1 and UNIX Motif.
> :
> :I even have a copy of Mastering Wingz - The Official Introduction to Wingz
> :Presentation Spreadsheet - ISBN 0-553-34706-3 and I daresay I might even be
> :able to rustle up some product disks. But if I recall they were 5.25 inch
> :floppies.
> :
> :I even worked on some projects into the mid 90's which were developed using
> :HyperScript front-ending Online 5.
> :
> :
> :
> :IMHO Wingz and HyperScript were classic examples of very good products which
> :were let down by Informix marketing of the time- but what do I know?
> :
> :
> :
> :Regards
> :
> :Malcolm
> :
> : _____
> :
> :From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org]
> :On Behalf Of Ian Michael Gumby
> :Sent: 30 January 2008 17:57
> :To: scottishpoet; informix-list@iiug.org
> :Subject: RE: WingZ 1989 World Tour - any info?
> :
> :
> :
> :
> :Uhm...
> :I resemble that remark.
> :
> :Yes it was after the purchase there was a "new" release of the product 1989
> :and it was the marketing launch.
> :I do have a Wingz bag (red), a coffee cup and a Wingz pin from the "good ol'
> :days" ... ;-)
> :
> :> From: dryburghj@yahoo.com
> :> Subject: Re: WingZ 1989 World Tour - any info?
> :> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:20:43 -0800
> :> To: informix-list@iiug.org
> :>
> :> On Jan 29, 10:45 am, Honey <unknownshop...@gmail.dot.com> wrote:
> :> > Does anyone have any info or pointers or links or anything about a World
> :> > Tour of WingZ in 1989? Searching the net brings up absolutely zero so I
> :> > don't know what it is I have - a black satin jacket with WingZ World
> :Tour
> :> > '89 patches embroidered on the front and back. I've searched for days
> :and
> :> > only been able to find out that WingZ was a spreadsheet software that
> :was
> :> > released in 1989 by Informix, but I've never heard of any software doing
> :a
> :> > world tour. That I can find there's was no music group around back then
> :> > with that name and I can't think of anything else it could be so I
> :figured
> :> > I'd ask here.
> :> >
> :> > Thanks,
> :> >
> :> > Honey
> :>
> :>
> :> Honey,
> :>
> :> WingZ was ready for release in 1988 and was bought by Informix (or
> :> SmartWare??) in 1989 . Either of these events could have led to a
> :> world wide product launch which incoropated a "world tour". This could
> :> have lead to some "neat" giveaways such as the back satin jacket, in
> :> the "Good old days" software companies gave out some nice gifts.
> :>
> :> I am not sure if anyone from 1989 is still around. I have passed the
> :> question around one or two of the guys that were with SmartWare to see
> :> if they have any more info
> :>
> :>
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