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Re: No forced migrations to DB2 - HORSE HOCKEY!

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There was an Infobahn in UK yesterday. Unfortunately I couldn't go, but
I'd be interested to hear what was said...

Earlier this year there was a 'poster', 'IBM data management vision
strengthens Informix', that seemed to imply that both DB2 and IDS would
in some way merge and from that would come Arrowhead in 2005. This would
seem to be reasonable, take the best from both products and produce
something wonderful... But of course, it all depends on the detail, what
will the 'performance' be like, how easy will the migration be, etc.

Also on that poster were some arrows, from which you might imply that
existing products would continue after 2005.

In the meantime there is uncertainty.

What seems peculiar is that IBM may be striving to create something
wonderful, and is sort-of open about its intentions. Oracle is sitting
quiet, apparently doing nothing, and applications are moving towards it.

It's a strange world!

In message <200304291831.h3TIVl9p000575@ace.iiug.org>, bleb@harland.net
writes
>I apologize in advance for this rant, but I hope IBM is monitoring this
>discussion list.
>
>First off, I attended the InfoBahn presentation in Atlanta a couple of
>weeks ago. Alan Grady, VP of DataManagement Worldwide Services and Support
>was the major presenter. He stressed the fact the IBM was not forcing
>migrations from Informix to DB2. It was stressed by several attendees
>including my self, that while IBM was not directly forcing these
>migrations, they were indirectly accomplishing the same by lack of 3rd
>Party Vendor support ie, Peoplesoft, BAAN, etc. Alan was also not very
>convincing as well, since he slipped several times and mentioned that there
>was a DB2 migration path for these type applications.
>
>I'd like to now congratulate IBM as our company is now seriously
>considering Oracle as a viable option for new projects. Whereas we have
>been almost exclusively Informix and DB2/UDB for Open Systems, IBM through
>it licensing policy has PO'd some people in my organization. What has
>pissed them off? How about a licensing strategy that basically places
>Informix licenses at almost twice the cost of DB2 licenses.
>
>It's not that were against DB2. It's just that we have applications
>currently running on Informix that would be much easier to support on
>Informix. For obvious reasons I can't go into our licensing agreements
>with IBM.
>
>How is my company supposed to view this? We are told we are not being
>forced into DB2. But the pricing makes it almost impossible not to
>migrate. With such mixed signals it's no wonder our management is so upset
>with IBM.
>
>Anyone know where I can get some good Oracle courses?
>
>

--
Andrew Lennard andy@kontron.demon.co.uk

Messages In This Thread

• No forced migrations to DB2 - HORSE HOCKEY!
  bleb@harland.net -- Tuesday, 29 April 2003, at 2:31 p.m.
  • Re: No forced migrations to DB2 - HORSE HOCKEY!
    Christine Normile -- Tuesday, 29 April 2003, at 4:21 p.m.
  • RE: No forced migrations to DB2 - HORSE HOCKEY!
    Konikoff, Rob (Contractor) -- Tuesday, 29 April 2003, at 4:48 p.m.
    • RE: No forced migrations to DB2 - HORSE HOCKEY!
      DarrenJacobs@carmax.com -- Wednesday, 30 April 2003, at 9:06 a.m.
      • RE: No forced migrations to DB2 - HORSE HOCKEY!
        Berner, Carl (Carl)** CTR ** -- Wednesday, 30 April 2003, at 11:48 a.m.
        • RE: No forced migrations to DB2 - HORSE HOCKEY!
          Obnoxio The Clown -- Wednesday, 30 April 2003, at 2:41 p.m.
  • Re: No forced migrations to DB2 - HORSE HOCKEY!
    Obnoxio The Clown -- Tuesday, 29 April 2003, at 7:10 p.m.
  • Re: No forced migrations to DB2 - HORSE HOCKEY!
    Andy Lennard -- Thursday, 1 May 2003, at 1:30 a.m.
    • Re: No forced migrations to DB2 - HORSE HOCKEY!
      Dave Thacker -- Thursday, 1 May 2003, at 1:52 p.m.

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