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Re: Problems - IDS 9.30 - RH 8.0
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4gl works fine.
What doesn't work well, is the 4gl debugger; at least for me.
Sometime ago you can evaluate these products, now if I'm not bad you can't.
I downloaded IDS 9.3 from IIUG and with the proper intructions it works
flawessly (Mandrake 9 - Cooked files... just evaluating...)
That time (IBM) Informix has a site that contain evaluation versions of
tools: 4gl, Debugger, ISQL, ..., demo versions for Linux (various
kernels), windows, etc...
I downloaded 4gl, Isql, 4gl-Debugger, ServerStudio (BTW this thing is
really cool).
From all, 4gl-Debugger has nasty bugs for me, and the best I advise (on
this list) I can get was to upgrade 'cause the product version has some
issues...
Now you CAN'T evaluate anyone of this! The download page no longer
exists... or I haven't found yet, maybe some day IBM get enligthed and
let users evaluate their products ;)
Anyway...
Chucho!
Nick Nobbe wrote:
> Thanks, Chucho. There are so many things that don't work. I can't
> imagine why they bother to sell Windows, but then considering the total
> amount of code, all spaghetti, they should be congratulated for getting
> it to work at all.
>
> Did you get the 4gl to work?
>
> Yours,
> Nick
>
>
> At 08:23 PM 02/20/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>
>> ;)
>>
>> I'm glaf that it worked.
>>
>> Chucho!
>>
>> Quoting Nick Nobbe <n.nobbe@comcast.net>:
>>
>> > Chucho,
>> >
>> > Finito la comedia!
>> >
>> > It works --- if you add the ncurses4 package, fix the links, and add
>> ksh
>> > as
>> > Andreas advises. Happy to say the libifxpthreadd library patch was not
>> > needed.
>> >
>> > Anyway, about Red Hat - yes, they do tweak the distro.
>> >
>> > About ncurses4: Red Hat 8.0 installs the default ncurses5 library. I
>> > noticed that Veritas requires
>> > ncurses4 for their Linux/Unix backup software.
>> >
>> > Sounds like ncurses5 is cursed.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Nick
>> >
>> >
>> > At 03:56 AM 02/20/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>> >
>> > >Well try it on Mandrake... I like it a lot far than Red Hat... but
>> > that´s
>> > >not the case...
>> > >
>> > >Red Hat and IDS 9.3 don´t behave as other's distros do... Bad for
>> > IBM...
>> > >not to mention the othe linux issues...
>> > > - engine caveats
>> > > - Escape problems
>> > > - Downloadable 4gl-Debugger has with bugs...
>> > > ...
>> > >
>> > >Well maybe they are resolved in 9.4... but you have to beta test it...
>> > >
>> > >If Informix wasn't so cool I think I would throw it to trash...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Chucho!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Quoting Nick Nobbe <n.nobbe@comcast.net>:
>> > >
>> > > > Jean,
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm using cooked - just to keep it simple. Once this is working,
>> I'll
>> > try
>> > > >
>> > > > raw, which is already set up.
>> > > >
>> > > > NSOTD (non sequitur of the day): "sauter pour mieux reculer"
>> > > >
>> > > > Yrs,
>> > > > Nick
>> > > >
>> > > > P.S. Sounds like IBM released IDS 9.30 without testing on the
>> RH 7.3
>> > -
>> > > > 8.0
>> > > > platforms and without announcing their caveat (not even in the
>> > release
>> > > > notes). Hmm, does this sound vaguely reminiscent of Microsoft and
>> > their
>> > > >
>> > > > world-user Betas? Sure hope they're more careful with their Aix and
>> > > > Solaris
>> > > > releases!
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > At 05:01 AM 02/19/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>> > > > >... Difficlut to say ...
>> > > > >
>> > > > >I use mandrake 9.0 and after making the procedure you describe all
>> > > > works
>> > > > >fine.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Are you using cooked files or raw devices?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Chucho!
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Nick Nobbe wrote:
>> > > > >>--Boundary_(ID_APZgffMqDWFBt+q4ZcHzhw)
>> > > > >>Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>> > > > >>Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
>> > > > >>OK,
>> > > > >>IDS 9.30.UC2E3-1 on Red Hat 8.0, kernel 2.4.18-14
>> > > > >>A trial/single user version - downloaded from the IIUG site.
>> > > > >>Using the demo version of IDS 9.30 & following the excellent
>> advice
>> > of
>> > > >
>> > > > >>Herr Breitfeld, I tried solution #1, i.e. breaking links and
>> > creating a
>> > > >
>> > > > >>link for libncurses.so.4, did the install, and could not start my
>> > > > server
>> > > > >>or attach to shared memory. Everything appeared to be OK - oninit
>> > > > created
>> > > > >>the shm and a semaphore - but oninit returned an error and
>> > onmonitor
>> > > > >>(after the init) reported it couldn't find the shared memory.
>> > > > >>Nevertheless, onmode -uk removed the shared memory segs. So you
>> > could
>> > > >
>> > > > >>say, it's almost working but not quite.
>> > > > >>So what's the cure? And since this is a free single-user "demo"
>> > version
>> > > >
>> > > > >>is the fix/patch also free? Or do I have to purchase a DB2
>> license
>> > to
>> > > >
>> > > > >>stay in the game? I noticed that the free Online 5.0 version
>> > > > downloadable
>> > > > >>via the IIUG members link is also brain damaged, but let's not
>> get
>> > into
>> > > >
>> > > > >>that right now.
>> > > > >>Any answers out there?
>> > > > >>Nick
>> > > > >>P.S. Here are some stats that may shed little light, or perhaps
>> > > > darkness,
>> > > > >>on the matter:
>> > > > >>Linux nnserver 2.4.18-14 #1 Wed Sep 4 13:35:50 EDT 2002 i686 i686
>> > i386
>> > > >
>> > > > >>GNU/Linux
>> > > > >> *** Using: glibc-2.2.93
>> > > > >> *** Library links:
>> > > > >> /usr/lib/libncurses.so -> libncurses.so.5
>> > > > >> /usr/lib/libncurses.so.4 -> libncurses.so
>> > > > >> /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5 -> libncurses.so.5.2
>> > > > >> /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5.2
>> > > > >> /lib/libc.so.6 -> libc-2.2.93.so
>> > > > >> /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 -> /lib/libpthread.so.0
>> > > > >> ls: /var/lib/libpthread.so.0: No such file or directory
>> > > > >> *** ldd $INFORMIXDIR/bin/oninit
>> > > > >> iosm09a.so => /usr/lib/iosm09a.so (0x40026000)
>> > > > >> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0
>> > (0x40029000)
>> > > > >> ismdd09a.so => /usr/lib/ismdd09a.so (0x4005a000)
>> > > > >> libm.so.6 => /lib/i686/libm.so.6 (0x4005c000)
>> > > > >> libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4007e000)
>> > > > >> libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x40081000)
>> > > > >> libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x42000000)
>> > > > >> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
>> > > > >> *** oninit -iv
>> > > > >>This action will initialize Informix Dynamic Server;
>> > > > >>any existing Informix Dynamic Server databases will NOT be
>> > accessible
>> > > > -
>> > > > >>Do you wish to continue (y/n)? yes
>> > > > >>Checking group membership to determine server run modesucceeded
>> > > > >>Reading configuration file
>> > '/opt/informix/etc/onconfig'...succeeded
>> > > > >>Creating /INFORMIXTMP/.infxdirs ... succeeded
>> > > > >>Creating infos file "/opt/informix/etc/.infos.demo_on" ...
>> > > > >>"/opt/informix/etc/.conf.demo_on" ... succeeded
>> > > > >>Writing to infos file ... succeeded
>> > > > >>Checking config parameters...succeeded
>> > > > >>Allocating and attaching to shared memory...succeeded
>> > > > >>Creating resident pool 1098 kbytes...succeeded
>> > > > >>Creating buffer pool 10002 kbytes...succeeded
>> > > > >>Initializing rhead structure...succeeded
>> > > > >>Initializing ASF ...succeeded
>> > > > >>Initializing Dictionary Cache and SPL Routine Cache...succeeded
>> > > > >>Bringing up ADM VP...[informix@nnserver informix]$ tail -f
>> > online.log
>> > > > >> *** log file
>> > > > >>10:51:05 Informix Dynamic Server Started.
>> > > > >>Tue Feb 18 10:51:05 2003
>> > > > >>10:51:05 Event alarms enabled. ALARMPROG =
>> > > > '/opt/informix/etc/log_full.sh'
>> > > > >>10:51:05 Booting Language <c> from module <>
>> > > > >>10:51:05 Loading Module <CNULL>
>> > > > >>10:51:05 Booting Language <builtin> from module <>
>> > > > >>10:51:05 Loading Module <BUILTINNULL>
>> > > > >> *** ipc status
>> > > > >>------ Shared Memory Segments --------
>> > > > >>key shmid owner perms bytes nattch
>> > > > status
>> > > > >>0x52564801 589824 root 660 11718656 0
>> > > > >>0x52564802 622593 root 660 8192000 0
>> > > > >>------ Semaphore Arrays --------
>> > > > >>key semid owner perms nsems status
>> > > > >>0x00000000 229376 root 660 8
>> > > > >>------ Message Queues --------
>> > > > >>key msqid owner perms used-bytes messages
>> > > > >> **** onmode -s or onmonitor Status messages:
>> > > > >> Cannot attach to shared memory.
>> > > > >> **** onmode -uk message:
>> > > > >> **** onstat -
>> > > > >>*** WARNING: Informix Dynamic Server is no longer running. ***
>> > > > >>*** WARNING: Informix Dynamic Server is no longer running. ***
>> > > > >>Changing data structure forced command termination.
>> > > > >> *** onmode -uk
>> > > > >>onmode: Shutdown of the database server shall be done by killing
>> > > > >> the database server processes, as the database server
>> > is
>> > > > >> in Initialization mode and cannot accept onmode
>> > commands.
>> > > > >> **** ipc status after "shutdown"
>> > > > >>------ Shared Memory Segments --------
>> > > > >>key shmid owner perms bytes nattch
>> > > > status
>> > > > >>------ Semaphore Arrays --------
>> > > > >>key semid owner perms nsems status
>> > > > >>------ Message Queues --------
>> > > > >>key msqid owner perms used-bytes messages
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>--Boundary_(ID_APZgffMqDWFBt+q4ZcHzhw)
>> > > > >>Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
>> > > > >>Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
>> > > > >><html>
>> > > > >>OK, <br><br>
>> > > > >>IDS 9.30.UC2E3-1 on Red Hat 8.0, kernel 2.4.18-14<br>
>> > > > >>A trial/single user version - downloaded from the IIUG
>> > site.<br><br>
>> > > > >>Using the demo version of IDS 9.30 & following the excellent
>> > > > advice
>> > > > >>of Herr Breitfeld, I tried solution #1, i.e. breaking links and
>> > > > creating
>> > > > >>a link for libncurses.so.4, did the install, and could not start
>> > my
>> > > > >>server or attach to shared memory. Everything appeared to be OK -
>> > > > oninit
>> > > > >>created the shm and a semaphore - but oninit returned an error
>> > and
>> > > > >>onmonitor (after the init) reported it couldn't find the shared
>> > > > memory.
>> > > > >>Nevertheless, onmode -uk removed the shared memory segs. So you
>> > could
>> > > > >>say, it's almost working but not quite. <br><br>
>> > > > >>So what's the cure? And since this is a free single-user
>> > > > "demo"
>> > > > >>version is the fix/patch also free? Or do I have to purchase a
>> > DB2
>> > > > >>license to stay in the game? I noticed that the free Online 5.0
>> > > > version
>> > > > >>downloadable via the IIUG members link is also brain damaged, but
>> > > > let's
>> > > > >>not get into that right now. <br><br>
>> > > > >>Any answers out there? <br><br>
>> > > > >>Nick<br><br>
>> > > > >>P.S. Here are some stats that may shed little light, or perhaps
>> > > > darkness,
>> > > > >>on the matter:<br><br>
>> > > > >><font face="Courier New, Courier">Linux nnserver 2.4.18-14 #1 Wed
>> > Sep
>> > > > 4
>> > > > >>13:35:50 EDT 2002 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux<br><br>
>> > > > >> *** Using: glibc-2.2.93<br>
>> > > > >> *** Library links:<br>
>> > > > >> /usr/lib/libncurses.so -> libncurses.so.5<br>
>> > > > >> /usr/lib/libncurses.so.4 -> libncurses.so<br>
>> > > > >> /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5 -> libncurses.so.5.2<br>
>> > > > >> /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5.2<br><br>
>> > > > >> /lib/libc.so.6 -> libc-2.2.93.so<br>
>> > > > >> /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 -> /lib/libpthread.so.0<br>
>> > > > >> ls: /var/lib/libpthread.so.0: No such file or
>> > directory<br><br>
>> > > > >> *** ldd $INFORMIXDIR/bin/oninit <br>
>> > > >
>> >
>> >><x-tab> </x-tab>iosm09a.so
>>
>> > > > >>=> /usr/lib/iosm09a.so (0x40026000)<br>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >><x-tab> </x-tab>libpthrea
>>
>> >
>> > > d.so.0
>> > > > >>=> /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 (0x40029000)<br>
>> > > >
>> >
>> >><x-tab> </x-tab>ismdd09
>> >
>> > > a.so
>> > > > >>=> /usr/lib/ismdd09a.so (0x4005a000)<br>
>> > > >
>> >
>> >><x-tab> </x-tab>libm.so.6
>>
>> > > > >>=> /lib/i686/libm.so.6 (0x4005c000)<br>
>> > > >
>> >
>> >><x-tab> </x-tab>libdl.so.2
>>
>> > > > >>=> /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4007e000)<br>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >><x-tab> </x-tab>libcrypt.
>>
>> >
>> > > so.1
>> > > > >>=> /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x40081000)<br>
>> > > >
>> >
>> >><x-tab> </x-tab>libc.so.6
>>
>> > > > >>=> /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x42000000)<br>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >><x-tab> </x-tab>/lib/ld-l
>>
>> >
>> > > inux.so.2
>> > > > >>=> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)<br><br>
>> > > > >> *** oninit -iv <br>
>> > > > >>This action will initialize Informix Dynamic Server;<br>
>> > > > >>any existing Informix Dynamic Server databases will NOT be
>> > accessible
>> > > > >>-<br>
>> > > > >>Do you wish to continue (y/n)? yes<br>
>> > > > >>Checking group membership to determine server run
>> > modesucceeded<br>
>> > > > >>Reading configuration file
>> > > > '/opt/informix/etc/onconfig'...succeeded<br>
>> > > > >>Creating /INFORMIXTMP/.infxdirs ... succeeded<br>
>> > > > >>Creating infos file "/opt/informix/etc/.infos.demo_on"
>> > ...
>> > > > >>"/opt/informix/etc/.conf.demo_on" ... succeeded<br>
>> > > > >>Writing to infos file ... succeeded<br>
>> > > > >>Checking config parameters...succeeded<br>
>> > > > >>Allocating and attaching to shared memory...succeeded<br>
>> > > > >>Creating resident pool 1098 kbytes...succeeded<br>
>> > > > >>Creating buffer pool 10002 kbytes...succeeded<br>
>> > > > >>Initializing rhead structure...succeeded<br>
>> > > > >>Initializing ASF ...succeeded<br>
>> > > > >>Initializing Dictionary Cache and SPL Routine
>> > Cache...succeeded<br>
>> > > > >>Bringing up ADM VP...[informix@nnserver informix]$ tail -f
>> > > > >>online.log<br><br>
>> > > > >> *** log file<br>
>> > > > >>10:51:05 Informix Dynamic Server Started.<br><br>
>> > > > >>Tue Feb 18 10:51:05 2003<br><br>
>> > > > >>10:51:05 Event alarms enabled. ALARMPROG =
>> > > > >>'/opt/informix/etc/log_full.sh'<br>
>> > > > >>10:51:05 Booting Language <c> from module
>> > <><br>
>> > > > >>10:51:05 Loading Module <CNULL><br>
>> > > > >>10:51:05 Booting Language <builtin> from module
>> > > > <><br>
>> > > > >>10:51:05 Loading Module <BUILTINNULL><br><br>
>> > > > >> *** ipc status<br><br>
>> > > > >>------ Shared Memory Segments --------<br>
>> > > > >>key
>> > > > >>shmid
>> > > > owner
>> > > > >>perms
>> > > > bytes
>> > > > >>nattch
>> > status
>> > > > <br>
>> > > > >>0x52564801 589824
>> > > > >>root
>> > > > >>660
>> > 11718656
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >>0  
>>
>> >
>> > > ;
>> > > > >><br>
>> > > > >>0x52564802 622593
>> > > > >>root
>> > > > >>660
>> > > > 8192000
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >>0  
>>
>> >
>> > > ;
>> > > > >><br><br>
>> > > > >>------ Semaphore Arrays --------<br>
>> > > > >>key
>> > > > >>semid
>> > > > owner
>> > > > >>perms
>> > > > nsems
>> > > > >>status <br>
>> > > > >>0x00000000 229376
>> > > > >>root
>> > > > >>660
>> > > > >>8 <br><br>
>> > > > >>------ Message Queues --------<br>
>> > > > >>key
>> > > > >>msqid
>> > > > owner
>> > > > >>perms used-bytes
>> > > > >>messages <br><br>
>> > > > >> **** onmode -s or onmonitor Status messages:<br>
>> > > > >> Cannot attach to shared memory.<br>
>> > > > >> **** onmode -uk message:<br><br>
>> > > > >> **** onstat -<br><br>
>> > > > >>*** WARNING: Informix Dynamic Server is no longer running.
>> > > > ***<br><br>
>> > > > >>*** WARNING: Informix Dynamic Server is no longer running.
>> > > > ***<br><br>
>> > > > >>Changing data structure forced command termination.<br><br>
>> > > > >> *** onmode -uk <br><br>
>> > > > >>onmode: Shutdown of the database server shall be done by
>> > killing<br>
>> > > > >> the database server
>> > > > processes,
>> > > > >>as the database server is<br>
>> > > > >> in Initialization mode
>> > and
>> > > > >>cannot accept onmode commands.<br><br>
>> > > > >> **** ipc status after "shutdown" <br><br>
>> > > > >>------ Shared Memory Segments --------<br>
>> > > > >>key
>> > > > >>shmid
>> > > > owner
>> > > > >>perms
>> > > > bytes
>> > > > >>nattch
>> > status
>> > > > >><br><br>
>> > > > >>------ Semaphore Arrays --------<br>
>> > > > >>key
>> > > > >>semid
>> > > > owner
>> > > > >>perms
>> > > > nsems
>> > > > >>status <br><br>
>> > > > >>------ Message Queues --------<br>
>> > > > >>key
>> > > > >>msqid
>> > > > owner
>> > > > >>perms used-bytes
>> > > > >>messages <br><br>
>> > > > >><br>
>> > > > >></font><br>
>> > > > >></html>
>> > > > >>--Boundary_(ID_APZgffMqDWFBt+q4ZcHzhw)--
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >--
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Atte,
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Jesús Antonio Santos Giraldo
>> > > > >jeansagi@spils.com
>> > > > >jeansagi@netscape.net
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Atte,
>> > >----------------------------
>> > >Jesus Antonio Santos Giraldo
>> > >jeansagi@spils.com
>> > >jeansagi@netscape.net
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >_________________________________
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>> Atte,
>> ----------------------------
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>> jeansagi@netscape.net
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